How does this stop?

[TheRabbit]

It is more regular than ever.

I spent the day in a mall today. It was packed. None of the TV's in the food court were tuned in to any news channels. Normally they are. People were on their phones, talking to each other and just being normal holiday shoppers. Which is obviously what the store want. They want people to be happy and shopping..not watching horrible news...I get that. Yet not one person I encountered today mentioned the mass shooting in California. The biggest attack since Sandy Hook.

Today in the news I have heard (on multiple channels) people saying "this is the new normal".

How can this be normal? Why have we come to accept this as just something that happens now?

More importantly, how does this stop? Seriously. Between these fucking kids who think it's now cool to get their name in the news for shooting a bunch of people and then eating a bullet to avoid punishment, and these fucking "extremists" (muslim, christian, leftist...whatever), how can we stop this from becoming Beirut? The more this happens, the worse it's going to get. The attacks will be larger and more violent in nature. The government will be forced to act aggressively. They will ban all "fun guns". We will be allowed to have single shot weapons for hunting, and that's it. It is going to happen sooner than later. I have come to accept that. I lost all my fun guns in a boating accident anyway, and I'm a bow hunter, so I'm good.

I firmly believe that when they do take away most guns, there may be some people who try to fight it, some people will be arrested, it will be big news for a while, but it will lose it's limelight. General society will just take it and comply. Too many people now do not use them anymore.

That action, however, will not stop this. People will still get weapons. People will still harbor evil. islam will still want to destroy us.
Tuning the middle east into glass will not work. If you truly think it will, then you are a fool. That will only fuel the hatred for generations to come.

So how does it stop? What action or process can we as civilians, or our leaders at the helm, take to ensure that this stops? I am starting to lose hope.

[Night]

I have a friend here who told me -- "I have enough bad things in my life, I just want escapism so I only read gossip websites, no news." I think she speaks for probably 60% of the population.

There's probably another 25% who are like me, becoming jaded, cynical and no longer surprised and a little burnt out at the shooting of the week.

That leaves 15% of you to give a fuck

[UnderTheStars]

With social media it's easier than ever to bury your head in fluff. So many people skip the news now, like Night said. I think people feel they are helpless also, and have an attitude like 'well, I can't do anything about it anyway'.

I don't know what the answer is. I fear we passed the tipping point for any meaningful solutions. Hate to generalize, but most millennials seem too self-involved to care or to feel they can make a difference. If they took their heads out of their phones and stopped twittering and Instagramming for a few minutes just to educate themselves on current events and become active politically, it would help. Their worlds are narrowed to who 'likes' them, its a self-gratification thing, and very high on the priority list. Shooters, etc - not high on their priority list. It doesn't impact them. Maybe if (God help us) it gets to the point where we as a nation and individuals are impacted on a daily basis... when we are inconvenienced by this... when we must make personal sacrifices.. maybe then it will put a dent in the vapidness of this age.

[DocZeus]

The 1994 Assault Weapons ban was in place for 10 MISERABLE years....it achieved NOTHING.....except costing me and millions of others a LOT more, to enjoy the sport that we love, and the right to defend ourselves....Columbine happened RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE of it......

The Talking Heads on the Boob Tube today, FREELY ADMIT that NO regulation or law can stop these kinds of attacks.....and yet they IMMEDIATELY start talking about GUN CONTROL.....WTF????

Here's MY take on all this BULLshit:

There are THOUSANDS of people killed, maybe TENS of thousands, due to DRUNK and/or DRUGGED-UP DRIVERS, EVERY YEAR.....NO ONE clamors for banning booze, or vehicles, and illegal drugs are, well, illegal.....but somehow, weapons alone are demonized, an inanimate object is blamed for the sickness and chaos these assholes crave and commit, and the answer is PUNISHING THE LAW ABIDING GUN OWNERS???? GTFO......

I say FUCK OFF, in NO uncertain terms, to ALL of the collective politicians and liberals that say that.....I will NOT have my rights infringed upon, due to the actions of a MINISCULE MINORITY of insane criminals....

This crap will NOT stop, until there is SWIFT AND SURE RETRIBUTION, in the form of PEOPLE TAKING RESPONSIBILITY FOR THEIR SAFETY, and ARMING THEMSELVES 24/7! Popping a Cap in these cretins before they kill a great, big bunch of innocents......Hey, it worked in the Old West, it can work AGAIN! And start PUBLIC EXECUTIONS of the lawfully convicted in these heinous crimes, if they can actually get a shot off; no 20 years on Death Row, appeal after appeal paid for by the taxpayers....Hell, bring back Gladiator contests, and put 'em on Pay-Per-View.....Better than NASCAR, and would be a PROVEN money-maker....

Brutal, you say? Inhuman? Anybody been keeping score lately, about how the "Muzzie Flavor Of The Week", or these "15-Minutes-Of-Fame" nutcases, have been conducting business??? Cutting people's heads off and shit???? Sometimes, ya gotta fight fire WITH fire....only use more of it, and do it first......

All of this hand-wringing and pointing fingers at ANYONE or ANYTHING besides the perpetrators, is TOTAL bullshit, and most people are fed-up with it.....I see it every day in industry, and out on the street.....It's NEVER their fault, NO INDIVIDUAL ACCOUNTABILITY for ONE'S ACTIONS!

We won't even go into the conspiracy-theory reasons of just WHY the .Gov wants the population in general disarmed.....old news, history will repeat itself, if no one grows a pair, and takes this shit......must be why these communists go after guns in such a big way, the track record for dictators in the 20th Century that achieved a disarmed populace was staggering......AND brutal beyond the pale.....Stalin, Hitler, Mao Tse Tung, Pol Pot, and an assortment of African dictators would be proud of the attempts of the Klintoons, Feinsteins and Schumers.....

DocZeus
AKA
The "Peace Through Superior Firepower" One....

[DocZeus]

islam will still want to destroy us.
Tuning the middle east into glass will not work. If you truly think it will, then you are a fool. That will only fuel the hatred for generations to come.

Not if you kill them ALL.......there won't be anyone LEFT to hate.....

Sometimes, a War Of Attrition is the ONLY answer, ESPECIALLY against fanatics......Blackjack Pershing knew how to achieve an uneasy peace with muzzies.....and all it cost him was a few pigs, 49 rounds of ammo, and one released prisoner that went back and told his fellow Goat Fuckers: "Hey, we gotta stop! This Crazy White Fucker MEANS BUSINESS, he'll KILL US ALL!"

Racist? Not at all.....I go by their ACTIONS, the FACTS about what it is they do/have done, not a "preconceived notion" of what they might do, or some "politically-correct" solution; Boy, THAT shit sure has worked out for us, hasn't it???.....how many heads have to be cut-off by these lunatics, and how much innocent blood has to be spilled in our streets, right here at home, before the ONLY thing that will stop it is done? I've never given a Rat's Ass WHO I offend, and this Country better get back on board with that attitude, 'cause so far, all their bullshit solutions have been biting them dead-square in the ASS.....

Ain't no different, than NOT beating your kids' ass, when they step way outta line.....they'll keep pushing, and pushing, until there IS no line to cross, it'll be total anarchy......why, you'll have shootings every week, religious fanatics murdering people in cold blood....Oh.....wait a minute......

DocZeus
AKA
The "Call Me Captain Obvious" One.....

[TheRabbit]

A. Dude, calm down. You don't have to CAPITALIZE and bold print and underline so much. I am truly starting to think that you, while somewhat intelligent, are beyond batshit crazy.

B. Think about all that in your second post for a minute. You are speaking as if they are all in the middle east in a centralized location. Look at how many are in Europe, Canada and the US. You just can't drop bombs to end this. It's impossible.



Xanax is your friend.

[gamgee]

I have lots of ideas, but I'm not putting them in print.

[TheRabbit]

Chicken.....

[swampbilly]

I'm with Doc.

Fucking kill em all in the mid east.....

EU and Canada, fuck em let them deal with their own shit pile.......

The states, hunt em down..and deport em all......fuck the socially acceptable pc attitudes...

cum-fucking-by-ya, my ass

[TheRabbit]

Yes, deport them so that they can go somewhere else to make a plan to strike us.

Still no viable answers.

[swampbilly]

send em back to the new glasslands give them nothing but swine to raise and eat, then nuke em again

mecca should be the 1st strike, preferably during ramadan

[Absolutely!]

I read yesterday an article saying that the gun ban in aussie worked not because it stopped criminals from accessing weapons, but because it made it much harder for weirdos living in their momma's basements to get weapons.

Criminals have guns as a means of doing business. They're not there to shoot you; they're there to get their shit. But the nutbags and freaks; they'll do anything. And in America, they can.

Which rights do you uphold when you have competing rights? The right to wander around the mall fully armed; or the right to not get shot when you go to the mall?

You fuckers are going to have to work that one out on your own.

[TheRabbit]

I read yesterday an article saying that the gun ban in aussie worked not because it stopped criminals from accessing weapons, but because it made it much harder for weirdos living in their momma's basements to get weapons.

Criminals have guns as a means of doing business. They're not there to shoot you; they're there to get their shit. But the nutbags and freaks; they'll do anything. And in America, they can.

Which rights do you uphold when you have competing rights? The right to wander around the mall fully armed; or the right to not get shot when you go to the mall?

You fuckers are going to have to work that one out on your own.

Have you heard of Chicago?

[Mayaca]

Which rights do you uphold when you have competing rights? The right to wander around the mall fully armed; or the right to not get shot when you go to the mall?.

Thomas Jefferson already figured it out. "I would rather have dangerous liberty than peaceful bondage"

You might not have noticed but no one is getting shot in the mall where people are walking armed. It is in gun free zones.

I guess we fuckers have that part figured out already.

[Absolutely!]

Have you heard of Chicago?

that was so last week.