Extraterrestrials:

[Talon]

[Talon]

[Talon]

Bob Lazar says the aliens come from Zeta Reticuli.

[Talon]

Betty and Barney Hill also say that they are from ZR.

http://www.gravitywarpdrive.com/Zeta_Reticuli_Incident.htm

[Talon]

Betty and Barney Hill under hypnosis.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barney_and_Betty_Hill

[Talon]

Betty Hill interview.

[Unclefred]

Benny Hill had mysterious powers after being kidnapped by the aliens-

[Talon]

I'd probe her!^^^^^^^^^^^^

[Steve28]

There's no intelligent aliens. None, nada, zip. And you can take that to the bank.

[Talon]

That's a definite possibility. We might just be alone.

There's no intelligent aliens. None, nada, zip. And you can take that to the bank.

[Steve28]

That's a definite possibility. We might just be alone.

We are - in this galaxy at least and likely the local galactic neighborhood. If we weren't we wouldn't be here at all.

[Absolutely!]

We are - in this galaxy at least and likely the local galactic neighborhood. If we weren't we wouldn't be here at all.

Well no. All it means is they haven't got to us yet. The dodo was alive for a lot longer than it was extinct.

[Steve28]

Well no. All it means is they haven't got to us yet. The dodo was alive for a lot longer than it was extinct.

The probability is extremely remote. Consider 100 billion stars in this galaxy with likely trillions of worlds orbiting them. Consider also the billions of years they've had to evolve. And then there's us. With our current level of technology we could do a Manhatten project type thing and massively engineer ships that could reach the nearest stars. They wouldn't get there anytime soon, but they'd get there. With not much more than our current technology we could colonize the entire galaxy in less than a million years (the galaxy is 100,000 light years across). A million years is nothing compared to the billions of years the galaxy has been here. The blink of an eye. Yet with 100 billion star systems out there not one has colonized the galaxy and there's been plenty of time for that to happen a million times over. But nothing. We're alone. Clearly intelligent life is vanishingly rare.

[Absolutely!]

The probability is extremely remote. Consider 100 billion stars in this galaxy with likely trillions of worlds orbiting them. Consider also the billions of years they've had to evolve. And then there's us. With our current level of technology we could do a Manhatten project type thing and massively engineer ships that could reach the nearest stars. They wouldn't get there anytime soon, but they'd get there. With not much more than our current technology we could colonize the entire galaxy in less than a million years (the galaxy is 100,000 light years across). A million years is nothing compared to the billions of years the galaxy has been here. The blink of an eye. Yet with 100 billion star systems out there not one has colonized the galaxy and there's been plenty of time for that to happen a million times over. But nothing. We're alone. Clearly intelligent life is vanishingly rare.

Remember everywhere big banged at once.

There's probably a fairly standard evolution time. Remember you haven't said 'there is no advanced master-race out there'. you have said 'there's nothing at all out there.' 'We are alone'. That's cheeky that is.

That's saying there's no amoeba anywhere else. There's no planet evolved up to plants, or small fuzzy animals, or bats or anything. You're saying there's nothing.

I think it's outrageously unlikely based on statistics, that there be nothing. Outrageously unlikely. Trillions of planets as you say, and none of them have life forms? If you believe in a God, then it's outrageously unlikely he would create ALL THOSE WORLDS and put nothing on them, only putting life on one of a gazillion planets.

If you don't believe in a God, then statistics come into play. If we can ooze protein chains together in a sea of muck, why assume no other planets can?

Remember we've all had the same amount of time. so we don't have to anticipate that all the other worlds are evolutionarily or technologically more advanced than us.

[Steve28]

I'm not saying there's no life Abs, I'm saying there's no intelligent life. Life like us with the capability to go into space. If they existed they'd own the entire galaxy.

As for all the other worlds being more technologically advanced than us, it would only take one, just one. One out of a trillion worlds just in our galaxy. And there isn't even one. As I said before, if there was even one then they would have colonized the entire galaxy in under a million years. Probably more like a couple of hundred thousand years. Hasn't happened so they're not there.